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" those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it "
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2004-09-22 05:11:44 UTC
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Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
AFP , UNITED NATIONS
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004

UN Secretary General Kofi Annan took a fresh jab at US President
George W. Bush yesterday, in a clear sign that world opinion was still
far from making peace with the war in Iraq.

Annan opened this year's annual debate of world leaders at the UN by
criticizing Bush's plan to deliver democracy to Iraq through force in
a pointed speech aimed at underlining the importance of the rule of
law.

"Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must themselves embody it, and
those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it,"
Annan said, according to his prepared remarks.

"In Iraq, we see civilians massacred in cold blood while relief
workers, journalists and other non-combatants are taken hostage and
put to death in the most barbarous fashion," he said.

"At the same time, we have seen Iraqi prisoners disgracefully abused,"
he said, drawing a parallel between the Iraq bloodshed and the
prisoner scandal in a way destined to irk Bush, who was to due to
speak after Annan.

Annan has labored for a year to heal the deep divisions over the war
that brought down former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, and his
wide-ranging address referred to the catastrophe in Sudan, the ongoing
Middle East conflict and Russia's hostage tragedy.

But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.

"It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
James Briggs
2004-09-22 09:15:59 UTC
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Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
AFP , UNITED NATIONS
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan took a fresh jab at US President
George W. Bush yesterday, in a clear sign that world opinion was still
far from making peace with the war in Iraq.
Annan opened this year's annual debate of world leaders at the UN by
criticizing Bush's plan to deliver democracy to Iraq through force in
a pointed speech aimed at underlining the importance of the rule of
law.
"Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must themselves embody it, and
those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it,"
Annan said, according to his prepared remarks.
"In Iraq, we see civilians massacred in cold blood while relief
workers, journalists and other non-combatants are taken hostage and
put to death in the most barbarous fashion," he said.
"At the same time, we have seen Iraqi prisoners disgracefully abused,"
he said, drawing a parallel between the Iraq bloodshed and the
prisoner scandal in a way destined to irk Bush, who was to due to
speak after Annan.
Annan has labored for a year to heal the deep divisions over the war
that brought down former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, and his
wide-ranging address referred to the catastrophe in Sudan, the ongoing
Middle East conflict and Russia's hostage tragedy.
But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.
"It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
Sudan is on the UN Human Rights Cmmission The reason that Sudan is on the UN
Huan Rghts Cmmission is because the world supports genocide and sees the US
has the anemy of their view of human rights.
JBgarbuz
2004-09-22 21:29:02 UTC
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Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
AFP , UNITED NATIONS
We...
But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.
"It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
Sudan is on the UN Human Rights Cmmission The reason that Sudan is on
the UN Huan Rghts Cmmission is because the world supports genocide and
sees the US has the anemy of their view of human rights.<
Amen. The FUNDAMENTAL flaw of the UN was taking in dictatorships as
members in the first place, starting with the USSR and Saudi Arabia.
Taking in dictatorships into a world body that is supposed to be dedicated
to world peace and order is like the police taking in mafiosa in hopes of
fighting crime. It is absurd on the face of it. This is why outside of
humanitarian aid, the UN has basically accomplished NOTHING, except serve
as a debating society and place where the lowlife criminal regimes can
take potshots at the US and Israel which serve as a lightning rod for
their trumped up grievances. The dictators can point at the US and Israel
as the root of all their problems while they rob their people blind. I
suppose that's better than all out war as an
outlet for imaginary grievances. Those countries that work hard, and don't
concentrate all their
energies on imaginary grievances, such as those of east Asia, manage to
work their way out of
poverty. Those who mire in the muck of their own making and seek to blame
America, Israel or others for all their real or imaginary ills, remain
stuck in their own muddy manure.
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JBgarbuz
2004-09-22 21:18:07 UTC
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Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
AFP , UNITED NATIONS
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan took a fresh jab at US President
George W. Bush yesterday, in a clear sign that world opinion was still
far from making peace with the war in Iraq.>
Annan opened this year's annual debate of world leaders at the UN by
criticizing Bush's plan to deliver democracy to Iraq through force in
a pointed speech aimed at underlining the importance of the rule of
law. "Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must themselves embody it, and
those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it,"
Annan said, according to his prepared remarks.<
If that is so, then why didn't the UN protect ISrael in 1948 when it was
attacked by 5 Arab
armies? It went to the aid of South Korea! Whose army came to defend the
brand new almost defenseless State of Israel in late 1947 and 1948 when it
was attacked? Fortunately, Czechoslovakia (thanks to the USSR) sold arms
to the embattled JEws and that saved them!
Not the UN! Of course, at the time the USSR hoped Israel would become a
communist ally, but
instead Israel went to democracy, albeit of a democratic socialist bent.
But the US was the first
to recognize ISrael, beating out the Soviet recognition by some 11
minutes, and Israel was
grateful, also for the economic aid that followed. But militarily, no UN
and no US and nobody
came to Israel's defense in 1948 when its new independence was so fragile
and precarious and
unassured. In fact, the Brits expected Israel to be rapidly defeated and
they'd be asked back in
to save the JEws and administer it again.


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"In Iraq, we see civilians massacred in cold blood while relief
workers, journalists and other non-combatants are taken hostage and
put to death in the most barbarous fashion," he said.
"At the same time, we have seen Iraqi prisoners disgracefully abused,"
he said, drawing a parallel between the Iraq bloodshed and the
prisoner scandal in a way destined to irk Bush, who was to due to
speak after Annan.
Annan has labored for a year to heal the deep divisions over the war
that brought down former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, and his
wide-ranging address referred to the catastrophe in Sudan, the ongoing
Middle East conflict and Russia's hostage tragedy.
But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.
"It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
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Sigfried
2004-09-23 03:48:29 UTC
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International law is good for the lawyers and time wasters. After Sep-11,
we have the law of survival.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither

liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin

"They that can give up essential liberty to be the slaves of izlam deserve
neither liberty nor

respect."

The sender of this post.

Beware lest in your anxiety to avoid war you obtain a master.

[Unknown]

Ah yes, we must mollify angry fanatics who seek our destruction

because otherwise, they might get mad and seek our destruction.

Ann Coulter 26 Sep 2002
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Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
AFP , UNITED NATIONS
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan took a fresh jab at US President
George W. Bush yesterday, in a clear sign that world opinion was still
far from making peace with the war in Iraq.
Annan opened this year's annual debate of world leaders at the UN by
criticizing Bush's plan to deliver democracy to Iraq through force in
a pointed speech aimed at underlining the importance of the rule of
law.
"Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must themselves embody it, and
those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it,"
Annan said, according to his prepared remarks.
"In Iraq, we see civilians massacred in cold blood while relief
workers, journalists and other non-combatants are taken hostage and
put to death in the most barbarous fashion," he said.
"At the same time, we have seen Iraqi prisoners disgracefully abused,"
he said, drawing a parallel between the Iraq bloodshed and the
prisoner scandal in a way destined to irk Bush, who was to due to
speak after Annan.
Annan has labored for a year to heal the deep divisions over the war
that brought down former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, and his
wide-ranging address referred to the catastrophe in Sudan, the ongoing
Middle East conflict and Russia's hostage tragedy.
But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.
"It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
ronin
2004-09-23 08:19:20 UTC
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Post by Sigfried
International law is good for the lawyers and time wasters. After Sep-11,
we have the law of survival.
Yet your ass is still sitting in your den, while you let better americans
die in your place...
Post by Sigfried
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither
liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
They that sit on their asses and blather about 'law of survival', yet do not
enlist are pathetic chickenhawks.

-ronin
Post by Sigfried
"They that can give up essential liberty to be the slaves of izlam deserve
neither liberty nor
respect."
The sender of this post.
Beware lest in your anxiety to avoid war you obtain a master.
[Unknown]
Ah yes, we must mollify angry fanatics who seek our destruction
because otherwise, they might get mad and seek our destruction.
Ann Coulter 26 Sep 2002
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Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
AFP , UNITED NATIONS
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan took a fresh jab at US President
George W. Bush yesterday, in a clear sign that world opinion was still
far from making peace with the war in Iraq.
Annan opened this year's annual debate of world leaders at the UN by
criticizing Bush's plan to deliver democracy to Iraq through force in
a pointed speech aimed at underlining the importance of the rule of
law.
"Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must themselves embody it, and
those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it,"
Annan said, according to his prepared remarks.
"In Iraq, we see civilians massacred in cold blood while relief
workers, journalists and other non-combatants are taken hostage and
put to death in the most barbarous fashion," he said.
"At the same time, we have seen Iraqi prisoners disgracefully abused,"
he said, drawing a parallel between the Iraq bloodshed and the
prisoner scandal in a way destined to irk Bush, who was to due to
speak after Annan.
Annan has labored for a year to heal the deep divisions over the war
that brought down former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, and his
wide-ranging address referred to the catastrophe in Sudan, the ongoing
Middle East conflict and Russia's hostage tragedy.
But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.
"It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
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2004-09-24 10:39:23 UTC
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"Sigfried" <***@nomail.org> wrote in message news:4152478c$0$908$***@news.optusnet.com.au...
| International law is good for the lawyers and time wasters. After Sep-11,
| we have the law of survival.
|
| "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
| deserve neither
|
| liberty nor safety."
|
| Benjamin Franklin
|
| "They that can give up essential liberty to be the slaves of izlam deserve
| neither liberty nor



'LIBERTY' --- wasn't that the name of a US ship that was attacked?



| respect."
|
| The sender of this post.
|
| Beware lest in your anxiety to avoid war you obtain a master.
|
| [Unknown]
|
| Ah yes, we must mollify angry fanatics who seek our destruction
|
| because otherwise, they might get mad and seek our destruction.
|
| Ann Coulter 26 Sep 2002
|
|
| "-=| (ºLº) |=- o=[:::::::::::::::>" <rat-***@sanity.org> wrote in message
| news:***@news.comindico.com.au...
| > Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
| > AFP , UNITED NATIONS
| > Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004
| >
| > UN Secretary General Kofi Annan took a fresh jab at US President
| > George W. Bush yesterday, in a clear sign that world opinion was still
| > far from making peace with the war in Iraq.
| >
| > Annan opened this year's annual debate of world leaders at the UN by
| > criticizing Bush's plan to deliver democracy to Iraq through force in
| > a pointed speech aimed at underlining the importance of the rule of
| > law.
| >
| > "Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must themselves embody it, and
| > those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it,"
| > Annan said, according to his prepared remarks.
| >
| > "In Iraq, we see civilians massacred in cold blood while relief
| > workers, journalists and other non-combatants are taken hostage and
| > put to death in the most barbarous fashion," he said.
| >
| > "At the same time, we have seen Iraqi prisoners disgracefully abused,"
| > he said, drawing a parallel between the Iraq bloodshed and the
| > prisoner scandal in a way destined to irk Bush, who was to due to
| > speak after Annan.
| >
| > Annan has labored for a year to heal the deep divisions over the war
| > that brought down former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, and his
| > wide-ranging address referred to the catastrophe in Sudan, the ongoing
| > Middle East conflict and Russia's hostage tragedy.
| >
| > But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
| > dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
| > decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.
| >
| > "It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
| > the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
| > East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
Thom
2004-10-02 01:59:26 UTC
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Post by Sigfried
International law is good for the lawyers and time wasters. After Sep-11,
we have the law of survival.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
well spoken by ole Ben. Too bad Bush doesn't listen to the founding
fathers

THOM
Post by Sigfried
"They that can give up essential liberty to be the slaves of izlam deserve
neither liberty nor respect."
The sender of this post.
Beware lest in your anxiety to avoid war you obtain a master.
[Unknown]
Ah yes, we must mollify angry fanatics who seek our destruction
because otherwise, they might get mad and seek our destruction.
Ann Coulter 26 Sep 2002
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Annan criticizes Bush administration on Iraq
AFP , UNITED NATIONS
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan took a fresh jab at US President
George W. Bush yesterday, in a clear sign that world opinion was still
far from making peace with the war in Iraq.
Annan opened this year's annual debate of world leaders at the UN by
criticizing Bush's plan to deliver democracy to Iraq through force in
a pointed speech aimed at underlining the importance of the rule of
law.
"Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must themselves embody it, and
those who invoke international law must themselves submit to it,"
Annan said, according to his prepared remarks.
"In Iraq, we see civilians massacred in cold blood while relief
workers, journalists and other non-combatants are taken hostage and
put to death in the most barbarous fashion," he said.
"At the same time, we have seen Iraqi prisoners disgracefully abused,"
he said, drawing a parallel between the Iraq bloodshed and the
prisoner scandal in a way destined to irk Bush, who was to due to
speak after Annan.
Annan has labored for a year to heal the deep divisions over the war
that brought down former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, and his
wide-ranging address referred to the catastrophe in Sudan, the ongoing
Middle East conflict and Russia's hostage tragedy.
But the UN chief, who just last week called the war "illegal," also
dropped repeated hints about what he has called Bush's unilateral
decision to invade Iraq against the grain of international opinion.
"It is the law, including Security Council resolutions, which offers
the best foundation for resolving prolonged conflicts -- in the Middle
East, in Iraq and around the world," he said.
AnonMoos
2004-09-24 16:27:45 UTC
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Something that all those who try to justify and glorify the actions of
suicide-bomber terrorists -- and yet who turn right around and in the
next breath whine about how they're victims of "aggression" -- would
do well to keep in mind!
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2004-09-24 16:27:57 UTC
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Post by AnonMoos
Something that all those who try to justify and glorify the actions of
suicide-bomber terrorists -- and yet who turn right around and in the
next breath whine about how they're victims of "aggression" -- would
do well to keep in mind!
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